Trend interviewed Defense Issues Assistant to Azerbaijani President, Lieutenant-General Vahid Aliyev on the Day of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan Republic-June 26
Azerbaijan , Baku, June 23 / Trend P.Kesamanski/
Trend: Mr. Aliyev, a year has passed since our last meeting and our interview s prior to the Day of Azerbaijani Armed Forces have become a tradition. I would like to congratulate you on the Day of the Armed Forces of the Azerbaijan Republic and wish you all the best .
Aliyev: I would like to congratulate all veterans of the Armed Forces, militaries, civil servants and all of those who have contributed and still contribute to the building and development of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces led by the Supreme Commander.
Q.: What changes have occurred in the Armed Forces over the past year?
A.: The Azerbaijani Armed Forces, which was restored in 1991 and began to develop since 1993 thanks to the courage, authority and indomitable will of National Leader Heydar Aliyev, is now developing under the Supreme Commander's leadership in line with modern requirements and recently adopted Military Doctrine. This also applies to armory and combat training, army's provision and its moral component. This is demonstrated in practice in joint exercises that you could observe, and you will clearly witness of this in this year's parade. Over the years, we have established the Armed Forces, within which every soldier knows clearly what to do at the right time. We have much to be proud of, I mean our Armed Forces. We are completely prepared to liberate our occupied lands, and we improve our equipment and training each day with a view to minimize our casualties during the hostilities. All components of our Armed Forces - Land Forces, Air and Navy Forces, as well as other military units, such as Border Guards, Interior Ministry's Interior Troops and Emergency Situations Ministry's Civil Defense Troops, reached a qualitatively new and higher level that is incomparable at least in our region.
Q.: What challenges do you see occurring in the development of the armed forces?
A.: There are no problems at the state level in building the armed forces. We are able to meet the growing needs of the army. Some problems occur in places by force of objective and subjective factors, and this is also under the daily supervision of the Supreme Commander. An operational response is given to what that requires a quick respond, and certain issues take time . During the Novruz holiday, I have traveled to the entire frontline zone, have been at the forefront and, of course, along with other problems also inquired about the militaries' problems upon the president's task. A program has been developedbased on the package of reports, including mine, reports of the defense ministry, field reports and others upon the Supreme Leader's task with a view to address these problems.
Our goal is to minimize the problems at most and we are able to accomplish this in practice. The deaths of soldiers are, of course, the most painful subject and we aim to nullify the loss of personnel. But overall, the general conclusion that I made on my trip to the frontline zone is that your tranquility and your confidence in the victories are in safe hands of our soldiers , sergeants, and officers. I would like to once again assure the President and our citizens in this.
I would like to touch on the media and coverage of events in the army. One must understand that our army is an army of each citizen and the army is over-political structure , and more responsible attitude should be shown while covering the army events.
Q.: Mr. Aliyev , we are still receiving disturbing news from the front ...
A.: Unfortunately, yes we do ... [ ] and it is a direct consequence of the fact that the aggressor is not punished. The aggressor is not punished for the set of causes and it unties its hands, allows continue provocations on the frontline of the parties ...
Q.: Issue of the withdrawal of snipers from the front caused a big stir...
A.: There was much ado about nothing. Actually, I should note that they lack sophistication. The matter is not only proposal to remove the snipers, but also other moments , which I would like to speak about.
As for the withdrawal of snipers, I, with all due respect to those who supported this visually
"beautiful" , but in fact opportunistic offer of Armenia , would tell them the following: Armenia proposes to remove the snipers, and we propose to remove troops . Which is better? Which one is peace-loving ? Which one is correct? Why gentlemen do not even put an equal sign between the two proposals, but frankly support this - I won't have the heart to call it incomplete - offer , forgetting about ours... ?
How is it - let's remove the snipers ? It is completely unverifiable , ridiculous offer. It seems that those, who offer it, do not care what will kill people. If you get a bullet from the body , how to determine whether it is a short of sniper or marksman? Or is it a stray bullet ? Why not to remove the grenade launcher men , machinegunner or just shooters ?
All this ballyhoo over this "proposal " was calculated on that the heads of international organizations that are responsible to support any peace proposals will once again say in unison - "Peace to the world " . Yes, of course , "Peace to the world ", who would resist ... But we must remember that , first, voicing of the "Peace to the world " by an aggressor is no less sacrilegious than a serial rapist such as Chikotillo would say "I love women" .
Secondly , the Armenian side with this "proposal" actually meant to say less original - let's remove the modern small arms from the Azerbaijani side. But since to voice this is equal to make a spectacle of itself, so they came up with a more " original" idea - let's remove the snipers.
We say concretely 'no' to Armenia's proposal to remove the modern weapons from the frontline. Because they do not stop the aggression , they continue provocation due to impunity and they will further get such answers that they have never dreamed of. Our President has very accurately pointed out that Armenia will live in fear until the Karabakh problem resolved. It's true. If you have noticed, one of their first reactions about our victory at the "Eurovision", after , of course, all choler that they could not keep , was gladness that no war will be at least a year... As they say - no comment .
Summing up the issue of the withdrawal of snipers, I will remind old oriental wisdom: No matter how many times to repeat "Halva, Halva," the mouth will not become sweeter. So, the withdrawal of snipers is to say " halva", but our proposal - to remove the troops of the aggressor - occupier - means to eat halva finally.
I can name other sophistication: Do you pay attention to what a big sink the Armenian side makes when our diplomats raise the Karabakh issue at various international organizations?
Why? Because their position is bursting at the seams, they're wrong, and they feel unpleasant every time when others kept mentioning about it. If you are right, then you even do not care where and how the issue is discussed, on the contrary, you will be interested in these discussions. This explains our activity in promoting these issues at all levels of the international community. Because we are right, we have nothing to lose and we want to peacefully solve the current unfair situation. However, they make big sink, all the while referring to the Minsk Group, as if this interferes its work. It's pure demagoguery. Why does it hamper, how can it hamper in general? This may help, but nowise hamper... But to play for time is advantageous for them, so any torpedoing of the talks ends in escapes into the toilet and not retuning from there or any other circus ... . Here saying "they" I mean the Armenian leadership. It is obvious that they do not want to solve the issue, do not seek the prosperity of Armenia, as they need to be in the power at most. They do not care that the country is going to the dogs, and people are fleeing from poverty and from despair. It is important for them to see out, see out at all costs. They went to war and came to power in the wake of the war. So, in fact, this power is the power of war. First, they killed Azerbaijanis, and then could not resist the execution of their citizens.
One should understand that the fact that our talks with those whose hands are stained with the blood of our citizens, including children, women and elderly - is a huge compromise on our part.
Q.: Then, why we talk to them?
A.: I see mainly two reasons. First, our president deeply worries over and feels a loss of each soldier keenly. Of everyone. It is clear that more people will suffer with the beginning of open hostilities. Negotiations, in any case, are better than the death of our young guys. However, it is clear that this will not last forever. All the more, the time goes the population shifts to more militant mood. People are tired of waiting, hoping for a peaceful resolution to this conflict. However, the war is the last option, and it is always possible to resort to it, and Eurovision has nothing to do with it. Especially, as I said we are constantly building up our armed forces in accordance with modern requirements. The more we are preparing for war, the stronger we are becoming.
Secondly, these are presidents "elected" by the Armenian people. Legally or illegally it is their problem, but they are presidents, and so we have to talk to them.
Q.: The Armenian side is not sitting on its hands ...a new airport has been built.
A.: ( Laughs) All this fuss over the so- called "new" airport is just a PR campaign .
Well, for a start, only a very unhealthy brain can call the old Khojaly airport as a "new" after a renovation, a little retouch runway and at the same time without making it better, safer , more powerful. I would not like to delve deeply into this question about the characteristics of the Khojaly airport, although I have something to say ... [ ] Just take my word for it. This will not give them any practicality or even steeper - 'strategy' . This is likely an unsafe airport. They even contrive to lump the blame of crashes , which they would not avoid there , onto us.
Furthermore, even if the airport would give them some practicality in terms of transfer of forces and means, then believe, that to put the airport out of action is a matter of minutes with our equipment.
Finally on this topic. Everything that has been built there up to date, even if it is unsafe airport, tomorrow - is saving our money that we will invest in the development of the Nagorno-Karabakh region in any way.
So, we should rejoice at all that is being built at the expense of other countries or through the annual "requisitions " of their so-called "leaders" in Europe, the United States. It is a holy horror ... different kinds of beggars has been observed, but at this level - it is extremely humiliating. They themselves sunk to this state and also want to pull Karabakh into the abyss, but not so long ago it was a booming, paradise land, where life was in full swing ... . Now even none of their former "leaders" live there... I wonder whether this is also our blame. So, they will not hand out back what was built by those who "divorced" on their deceptions and donated something. All that will remain to us and save our money .
Here is another deception, with which they want to " dilute" the whole world, another sophistication - the question of so-called "Armenian genocide" . The same situation : Turkey says let's open the archives and discuss, and they say no ... Why ? Because, they are wrong, and they will be kept mentioning about it. If one is right, he/she does not afraid of any debate , but they are afraid , and at all levels - from the Armenian leadership to all sectors of the diaspora. It seems as having lost that argument , they will lose sufficiency. Rather, it is so , because they annually organize a show called "Armenian genocide" in the calculation to earn dividends both materially, and politically . It is im proper to watch how some foreign political forces, sometimes forget about justice, morality and interests of their countries and bow to the wishes of these pseudo- ideologues for some interests .
They do not see the obvious fact that it was wartime, the Armenian regular units, which were created by Tsarist Russia and Europeanallies even had certain success at the front, but nobody would think of calling it genocide of the Turks in the twilight of the Ottoman Empire. No one thinks that those numbers of victims, which their ideologists voice, just monstrous in its falsification, monstrous in its purpose - because they do PR on the human tragedy. It is monstrous, simply because so many Armenians could not physically reside there.
It touches, when they say their strong diaspora is the result of "genocide" that forced them to disperse throughout the world ... [ ] It touches when you begin to imagine that what events should have been occurred that people crossed the oceans, continents and traveled from Turkey to Argentina, Australia, USA, Canada, France ... Why is not heard about the Armenians, who "survived" in Somalia and Nigeria ... The desire to live well is a normal desire and no one blames for this, but it is not normal to cover this with tragic events that occurred in the history of Turkish and Armenian people during WWII.
There is an only worldwide recognized genocide - the genocide against the Jews by the Nazi regime. Its superiority over other nations and destruction of the Jews was the policy of then government. But, there is another genocide recognized by few - the genocide committed by Armenians against Turks. The same symptoms - the superiority of its nation over others and the destruction of the Turks. This is an indisputable fact: the Armenian state implemented it in practice, not only in relation to the Turks ... [ ] the events in the Ottoman Empire during the WWI, tragic events of 1918 in Baku, Shamakhi, Guba, Nakhchivan, Zangezur and up to the last an act of genocide in Khojaly - all these are flashy facts.
By the way, the Armenians themselves, discussing the topic of genocide and not only it, often recognize that they follow the example of the Jews in many respects... I would like to remind them that a copy, by definition, will always be worse than the original.
Armenia itself and particularly diaspora everywhere attempt to cause disgust against the Turks and to the entire Turkic world. The whole world goes to Turkey to have a rest, go sightseeing and do business, and all admire all that is there, especially, of course, the people, but they all try to prove otherwise. Whom and why do they cheat? It is clear that it is easy for the diaspora to reason, as they do not live in those conditions, under which Armenians live in Armenia. Their children will neither fight and die, nor even just sit in the trenches. That is they turned the Armenians of Armenia into the hostages of their interests. However, no lone can stop any normal person, no matter how you scare you, if his/her friend, a relative, say that it is good safely and well fed in Turkey. So, they keep saying "no" to their leaders and the Diaspora by their migration to the very Turkey.
The Armenian leadership has brought the country to the point that it is desperately unique in the world. The international community turns blind eyes on this for uncertain reasons. There is not a country where not only the representatives of other nations, but even the representatives of neighboring countries do not live. There are not such countries. It does not need to go far to seek examples. Let us look at those countries with which Armenia borders - Azerbaijan, Turkey, Iran, Georgia. Armenians live even not in small quantities in Azerbaijan, Turkey, Iran and Georgia. Now let us see whether at least some representatives of the bordering countries and peoples live in Armenia? No, no and again no. It is surprising, unprecedented. In general, Georgians, Turks, Iranians, Azerbaijanis were closely interwoven in their countries, intermingled with each other, especially in border areas, and deeply inside as well... It is inherent in absolutely all the countries worldwide... Everyone except Armenia. Nonsense. Did the world see anything of this kind? Tell me the second country of the former Soviet Union, where Russians would not live? There is not such country except Armenia! What else is necessary to prove the policy of the Armenian leaders? And some people still speak from high tribunes about the Armenianphobia, as though it is possible to tolerate the aggressor, who started the war, conducted large-scale ethnic cleansing, made refugees every seventh citizen of Azerbaijan in their own land and continues the occupation. In this case, it is forgotten to tell from the same high tribune that they have phobia towards all. Armenia became a mono-ethnic only after a country like Armenia appeared on the map of the Caucasus in 1918. But after independence, they put a big, fat point in this matter - expelling other peoples from this land. That is way such speeches are heard, that is, in consequence of the general acquiescence, today we have a country in the South Caucasus with a fascist ideology of superiority of their nation over others.
Because of a general connivance today, we have a country in the South Caucasus with a fascist ideology of superiority of their nation over others. For this reason, the representatives of all nationalities, except Armenians, have left this country. But for justice, let us note the representatives of the Armenian nation, who cannot live in such a society. More people would leave, but many do not have opportunities. It deals specifically with the state, not the Armenians as a nation, because although the Armenians themselves cannot live outside of the Armeniansim, but can live among other people.
This is a big problem. The problem is that when people begin to open eyes that you are also people like everyone else, the nationalist community will begin breaking. Again, maybe it is not terrible. There have been similar precedents in the history when the leaders poisoned their society with sick ideology. For example, Nazi Germany or the socialist Soviet Union. Everybody remembers with what tragedies and dramas it ended. I do not understand why the world once again comes to the same rake, including the co-chairing countries. Rather it is understandable, but partly ... Money, elections, diaspora, military base - someone desire to keep them here as long as possible to keep it there, while others - the desire to increase their influence in Armenia through the sweet pills, etc. But what about the interests of the state? What about the universal values? What about the responsibility for the future? And what about the most important - justice?
Q: Armenian officials ask very often - haven't they been tired of appealing to world community?
A: They should thank us and be glad that we solve the problem in such way, but not otherwise. It is possible to argue the enemies of your people, and if their officials say it, so it is their assessment ... Because in this way they are pushing us to war, and consequently, their people to the tragedy.
You mentioned the Armenian officials' the arguments, and here I want to speak how funny they are trying to present to all the known three principles to solve the Armenian-Azerbaijani Nagorno-Karabakh conflict in their favor. Simply I see surprising! Briefly I remember these three principles
- non-use of force
- right of nations to self-determination
- territorial integrity of the state
And at the last OSCE summit in Astana, the U.S. Secretary of State, as though explaining to those who do not want to understand, said: all of these principles are one goal, and it is wrong to pull out one of them. I.e. the problem should be solved as follows: with non-use of force, the Armenian population of Karabakh must determine themselves as part of integral Azerbaijan.
What logic they guide when separate from this bunch only one of the principles - the principle of self-determination, which is again interpreted by them in only one clear plane is absolutely unclear. They have much more non-understandable than understandable, and probably all got used to it ...
Q.: I do not want to end on a sour note ...
A.: Do not have to nowise. We do not live in current Armenia to be pessimistic. Only short-sighted politicians may consider temporary military success as a reason for optimism, but beg in the streets. Their future ruins. Once they are cut off from all regional and international communications, who will need this island on the land? As for that they have taken for while, we will return in any case. Definitely! Our army gives us every reason for optimism, we confidently look at the future. Our country is fully developed economically and politically, and socially. We know the tastes of different kinds of victories, and I want to assure everyone that the issue of a military victory over the aggressor, over those who is not satisfied with the Western Azerbaijan, our Irevan, Uchmedzin, Zangezur Zangebasar, Dereleyez, Goycha, Vedi, Gyumri and other lands, who now raise hand on Karabakh is a matter of time. They follow the path that leaves us no choice, but military operations. We are more than ready to this, and the economic potential of Azerbaijan, its military power and the high morale of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces' personnel is guarantee of our victories.